The Complex Landscape of AI and Cybersecurity

Navigating the Complex Landscape of AI and Cybersecurity: A Conversation with Rob T. Lee

In this weekend edition of Cybersecurity Today, host Jim Love interviews Rob T. Lee, the Chief AI Officer and Chief of Research at the SANS Institute. They discuss the intersection of AI, education, and security, highlighting the dual nature of AI as both a transformative technology with immense benefits and as a significant security risk. Rob shares his insights on how organizations can mitigate these risks by adopting a ‘yes’ framework towards AI, fostering a culture of learning and experimentation, and acknowledging the vulnerabilities and knowledge gaps in the field. He emphasizes the importance of community engagement, practical learning, and the role of AI champions in driving innovation while maintaining security. Throughout the conversation, they address the challenges of implementing AI governance and explore the need for continual adaptation in the fast-evolving tech landscape.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:25 AI: Potential and Risks
01:26 Business vs. Security
03:36 Rob’s Background and Experience
05:18 The Role of Practitioners in SANS
08:46 Governance and Security Challenges
17:13 The Crisis of Competency in AI
25:03 Encouraging Hands-On Learning
30:41 The Importance of Executive Involvement
33:49 The Problem with Security and Shadow AI
34:05 The Consequences of Shadow AI
34:52 Evaluating and Banning AI Tools
36:48 The Role of Executives in AI Adoption
40:04 Learning and Adapting to AI
42:47 The Importance of Community and Vulnerability
51:19 Practical Steps for AI Governance
58:47 Final Thoughts and Resources